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The best odds in Las Vegas blackjack games tend to be on single and double deck tables. Some players still prefer a six-shoe over those games. There are several in Las Vegas that offer favorable rules to players.

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Playing Six-Deck Blackjack on Las Vegas

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The best six-deck blackjack games in Las Vegas stand on all 17s, similar to online real money blackjack tables. Players may double down on any two cards and after splitting. These games also permit surrender and re-split aces up to four hands. The house edge in this game is 0.26%.
The casinos with these rules are listed below. The typical minimum bet is listed next to it.

  • Aria: $100
  • Bellagio: $50
  • Bally: $50
  • Cosmopolitan: $100
  • Encore: $100
  • Green Valley Ranch: $50
  • M Resort: $50
  • MGM Grand: $50
  • Mirage: $100
  • Palazzo: $100
  • Park MGM: $100
  • Sahara Las Vegas: $100
  • Treasure Island: $25
  • Tropicana: $25
  • Wynn: $200

Caesars and Station Casinos do not permit re-split aces in the stand on 17 shoes. This bumps the house edge up to 0.33%. These casinos generally have a $100 minimum bet. The games are found in the high limit lounge.

Bighorn and Longhorn Casinos Offer Odd Advantageous Rule

Bighorn and Longhorn Casinos are locals’ joints. Bighorn Casino is located on East Lake Mead in North Las Vegas. Longhorn is located at the corner of Harmon and Boulder Highway. These two casinos permit double down on any two cards and after splitting, as well as surrender and re-split aces. The dealer hits soft 17. These tables have a $5 minimum.

Bighorn and Longhorn offer players an unusual rule that is not found in any other traditional blackjack games in Las Vegas. Players may double down after hitting a card, something typically only found in Super Fun 21 and other carnival blackjack games that do not pay 3-2. This cuts the house edge nearly in half, making it 0.28%. This is only slightly worse than the high limit shoe games. That’s a great deal for a $5 game.

Previous Six-Deck Blackjack Surveys

Las Vegas Casinos are constantly changing and updating their games. We want to make sure you can always go back and check the information, you will be able to consult the data of previous years.

Six-Deck Blackjack Games at Las Vegas Casinos

Casino# of DecksMin BetMax BetH/S 17DADASRSASurrender# of Tables6/5 BJVideoExoticHouse Hold %
4 Queens65500H2NoNoBJ Switch0.58000%
4 Queens65500HYesYesNoNo1NoNoBonus Spin0.63873%
4 Queens65500HYesYesNoNo1NoNoZombie0.63873%
Aliante Casino65500HYesYesYesNo3NoNoNo0.57085%
Aliante Casino625500HYesYesYesNoNoNoNo0.57085%
Aria6155000HYesYesYesYes4YesNoFree Bet1.84232%
Aria65010000HYesYesYesYes6NoNoNo0.48263%
Aria630010000HYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.48263%
Aria650010000HYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.48263%
Aria6255000HYesYesYesYes20NoNoNo0.48263%
Aria610010000HYesYesYesYes11NoNoNo0.48263%
Arizona Charlie’s – Decatur65500HYesYesYesNo2NoNoNo0.57085%
Arizona Charlie’s – Decatur65500HYesYesYesNo1NoNoLucky Ladies0.57085%
Arizona Charlie’s – Decatur65500HYesYesYesNo1NoNoLet’s Play Blackjack0.57085%
Arizona Charlie’s – Decatur63500HYesYesYesNo1NoNoNo0.57085%
Bally’s65500HYesYesNoNo1EvenNoDouble Attack BJ0.63873%
Bally’s63500HYesYesNoYes1YesYesNo1.91020%
Bally’s6505000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Bally’s6502000SYesYesYesYes3NoNoNo0.28507%
Bellagio6155000HYesYesNoYes2YesNoFree Bet BJ1.91020%
Bellagio6255000HYesYesNoYes6YesNoNo1.91020%
Bellagio65010000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Bighorn65100HYesYesYesYes3NoNoLucky Ladies0.48263%
Binion’s63200HYesYesNoNo2YesYesNo1.99842%
Binion’s65500HYesYesNoNo1NoNoZombie0.63873%
Boulder Station65500HYesYesNoNo1YesNoFree Bet1.99842%
Boulder Station65500HYesYesNoNo3NoNoNo0.63873%
Boulder Station65500HYesYesNoNo1NoNoLucky Lucky0.63873%
Boulder Station65500HYesYesNoNo1NoNoLucky Ladies0.63873%
Caesars Palace61005000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Caesars Palace6255000HYesYesNoYes5NoNoNo0.55051%
Caesars Palace620010000SYesYesYesYes14NoNoNo0.28507%
Caesars Palace650010000SYesYesYesYes5NoNoNo0.28507%
California65200HYesNoNoNo1NoNoNo0.78327%
California63200HYesNoNoNo1YesNoNo2.14296%
Cannery65500HYesYesYesYes3NoNoNo0.48263%
Casino Royale651000HYesYesNoNo3YesNoBJ Switch1.99842%
Casino Royale6101000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoFree Bet1.99842%
Circus Circus65500HYesYesNoNo22YesNoNo1.99842%
Circus Circus621100HYesYesNoYes4YesYesNo1.91020%
Club Fortune63100HYesYesYesNo1NoNoNo0.57085%
Cosmopolitan61005000SYesYesYesYes1YesNoNo1.64476%
Cosmopolitan610010000SYesYesYesYes3NoNoNo0.28507%
Cosmopolitan620010000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Cosmopolitan630010000SYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.28507%
Cosmopolitan650010000SYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.28507%
Cosmopolitan620020000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Cosmopolitan630020000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Cromwell61003000SYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.28507%
Cromwell61005000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Cromwell610010000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Downtown Grand6101000HYesYesYesYes5NoNoNo0.48263%
Downtown Grand65500HYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.48263%
Eastside Cannery63500HYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.57085%
El Cortez65500HYesYesNoNo2NoNoNo0.63873%
Ellis Island65300HYesYesNoYes6NoNoNo0.55051%
Ellis Island65300H1NoBlackjack Bonus Spin6.36000%
Ellis Island65300H1NoBuster Blackjack6.21000%
Encore6255000HYesYesNoYes1YesYesBJ Switch0.58000%
Encore65010000HYesYesNoYes10NoYesNo0.55051%
Encore6105000HYesYesNoYes1YesYesNo1.91020%
Encore610010000SYesYesNoYes10NoYesNo0.35361%
Encore6155000HYesYesNoYes9YesYesNo1.91020%
Encore6155000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoBlazing 7’s Blackjack1.91020%
Encore6155000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoFree Bet1.91020%
Encore6255000HYesYesNoYes6NoNoNo0.55051%
Excalibur6101000HYesYesNoNo19YesNoBJ Switch1.99842%
Fiesta Henderson63500HYesYesNoYes1NoNoNo0.55051%
Fiesta Rancho65500HYesYesNoNo1NoNoNo0.63873%
Fiesta Rancho63500HYesYesNoYes2NoNoNo0.55051%
Flamingo610010000SYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.28507%
Fremont65500HYesNoNoNo4NoNoNo0.78327%
Fremont63200HYesNoNoNo4YesNoNo2.14296%
Fremont63200HYesNoNoNo1YesNoKings Bounty2.14296%
Fremont610200HYesNoYesYes1YesNoSuper Fun 211.98680%
Gold Coast65500HYesYesNoNo3NoNoNo0.63873%
Golden Gate6101000H2NoNoFree Bet1.02000%
Golden Gate652500HYesYesNoNo12NoNoNo0.63873%
Golden Nugget651000HYesYesNoNo4YesNoBonus Spin1.99842%
Golden Nugget6101000H1NoNoFree Bet1.02000%
Golden Nugget6102500HYesYesNoYes6NoNoNo0.55051%
Golden Nugget6255000HYesYesYesYes3NoNoNo0.48263%
Golden Nugget6101000HYesYesNoNo3YesNoNo1.99842%
Golden Nugget (Pool)6102500HYesYesYesNo4YesNoNo1.93054%
Golden Nugget (RL)6102500HYesYesYesNo1NoNoNo0.57085%
Golden Nugget (RL)6101000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoNo1.93054%
Green Valley Ranch6151000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoFree Bet1.91020%
Green Valley Ranch6102500HYesYesNoYes7NoNoNo0.55051%
Green Valley Ranch6505000SYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.28507%
Green Valley Ranch651000HYesYesNoYes1NoNoNo0.55051%
Hard Rock6151000HYesYesYesNo2YesNoNo1.93054%
Hard Rock6251000HYesYesYesNo2YesNoNo1.93054%
Hard Rock61005000HYesYesYesYes4NoNoNo0.48263%
Hard Rock6151000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoLucky Lucky1.93054%
Hard Rock6251000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoLucky Lucky1.93054%
Hard Rock61005000HYesYesYesYes1NoNoLucky Lucky0.48263%
Harrah’s6151000HYesYesNoNo6NoNoNo0.63873%
Harrah’s6151000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoFree Bet0.63873%
Harrah’s6151000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoEZ Bust0.63873%
Harrah’s6151000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoBlazing 7’s Blackjack0.63873%
Harrah’s6151000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoBuster Blackjack0.63873%
Harrah’s6151000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoWar Blackjack0.63873%
Harrah’s610010000SYesYesNoYes3NoNoNo0.35361%
OYO65500HYesYesNoNo4YesNoNo1.99842%
OYO61200HYesYesNoNo1YesNoNo1.99842%
OYO610500HYesYesNoNo1YesYesNo1.99842%
Jokers Wild63300HYesYesNoNo1NoNoNo0.63873%
Linq6103000HYesYesNoYes2YesNoNo1.91020%
Linq6153000HYesYesNoYes9YesYesNo1.91020%
Linq6153000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoBlazing 7’s Blackjack1.91020%
Linq6153000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoBuster Blackjack1.91020%
Linq6153000HYesYesNoYes1YesNo21+3 Xtreme1.91020%
Linq6153000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoBJ Spin1.91020%
Linq6153000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoFree Bet1.91020%
Longhorn6150HYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.48263%
Longhorn63100HYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.48263%
Longhorn65100HYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.48263%
Lucky Club6150HYesYesNoNo1NoNoNo0.63873%
Lucky Club63100HYesYesNoNo1NoNoNo0.63873%
Lucky Club65100HYesYesNoNo2NoNoNo0.63873%
Luxor61005000HYesYesNoNo3NoNoNo0.63873%
Luxor6101000HYesYesNoNo8YesYesNo0.63873%
Luxor6151000HYesYesNoNo14YesNoNo1.99842%
Luxor6151000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoLucky Lucky1.99842%
Luxor6151000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoFree Bet1.99842%
Luxor6151000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoBuster Blackjack1.99842%
M Resort651000HYesYesNoNo6NoNoNo0.63873%
M Resort6505000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Mandalay Bay6152500HYesYesYesYes1YesNoBJ Switch1.84232%
Mandalay Bay6255000HYesYesYesYes4YesNoNo1.84232%
Mandalay Bay6255000HYesYesYesYes1YesNoLucky Lucky1.84232%
Mandalay Bay6255000HYesYesYesYes1YesNoBuster Blackjack1.84232%
Mandalay Bay6255000HYesYesYesYes1YesNoBlackjack Spin1.84232%
Mandalay Bay61005000SYesYesNoYes5NoNoNo0.35361%
Mandalay Bay6505000HYesYesYesYes5YesNoNo1.84232%
MGM610010000HYesYesYesYes9NoNoFree Bet0.48263%
MGM62510000HYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.48263%
MGM6255000HYesYesYesYes12NoNoNo0.48263%
MGM6255000HYesYesYesYes1NoNoBuster Blackjack0.48263%
MGM6255000HYesYesYesYes1NoNoLucky Lucky0.48263%
MGM6255000HYesYesYesYes1NoNoBlackjack Spin0.48263%
MGM6252000HYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.48263%
MGM65010000HYesYesYesYes1NoYesNo0.48263%
MGM650010000HYesYesYesYes1NoYesNo0.48263%
Mirage6152000HYesYesYesYes23YesYesNo1.84232%
Mirage6152000HYesYesYesYes1YesNoBlackjack Spin1.84232%
Mirage6152000HYesYesYesYes1YesNoBuster Blackjack1.84232%
Mirage6152000HYesYesYesYes1YesNoLucky Lucky1.84232%
Mirage6252000HYesYesYesYes3YesNoNo1.84232%
Mirage6505000HYesYesYesYes6YesNoNo1.84232%
Mirage610010000SYesYesYesYes4YesNoNo1.64476%
Mirage630010000SYesYesYesYes5YesNoNo1.64476%
Mirage650010000SYesYesYesYes4YesNoNo1.64476%
NYNY6101000HYesYesNoNo6YesNoBJ Switch1.99842%
NYNY65100HYesYesNoNo2YesNoFree Bet1.99842%
NYNY6151000HYesYesNoNo21YesYesNo1.99842%
NYNY6151000HYesYesNoNo1YesYesBuster Blackjack1.99842%
NYNY6151000HYesYesNoNo1YesYesLucky Lucky1.99842%
NYNY6151000HYesYesNoNo1YesYesBlackjack Spin1.99842%
NYNY61005000HYesYesNoNo6YesNoNo1.99842%
Orleans651000HYesYesNoNo3NoNoNo0.63873%
Palace Station6101000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoFree Bet1.91020%
Palace Station651000HYesYesNoYes3NoNoNo0.55051%
Palazzo6157000HYesYesYesYes1YesNoBJ Switch1.84232%
Palazzo65010000HYesYesYesYes4YesNoBJ Switch1.84232%
Palazzo62510000HYesYesYesYes17YesNoFree Bet1.84232%
Palazzo610010000SYesYesYesYes3YesNoNo1.64476%
Palms6101000HYesNoYesNo12NoNoNo0.71539%
Palms6151000HYesNoYesYes1YesNoNo1.98680%
Palms610010000SYesNoYesNo6NoNoSuper 40.49945%
Palms610010000SYesNoYesNo1NoNoBet the Set 210.49945%
Palms6101000HYesNoYesNo1NoNoBet the Set 210.71539%
Paris610200HYesYesNoYes1NoNoNo0.55051%
Paris6152000HYesYesNoYes1NoNoBJ Switch0.55051%
Paris610010000SYesYesNoYes3NoNoNo0.35361%
Park MGM Casino610500HYesYesYesNo1NoNoBJ Switch0.57085%
Park MGM – NOMAD Casino610010000SYesYesYesYes4NoNoNo0.28507%
Planet Hollywood610010000HYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.48263%
Plaza651000H1NoNoMost Liberal 211.33000%
Plaza651000HYesYesNoNo8NoNoNo0.63873%
Plaza651000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoFree Bet0.63873%
Plaza651000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoBonus Spin1.99842%
Plaza651000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoBuster Blackjack0.63873%
Poker Palace6250HYesYesYesNo4NoNoNo0.57085%
Railroad Pass63200HYesYesNoNo1NoNoNo0.63873%
Rampart651000HYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.48263%
Red Rock6102000HYesYesNoYes4NoNoNo0.55051%
Red Rock651000HYesYesNoYes5YesNoNo1.91020%
Red Rock610010000SYesYesNoYes4NoNoNo0.35361%
Rio6155000HYesNoNoNo3YesNoFree Bet1.99842%
Rio610010000SYesYesNoYes7NoYesNo0.35361%
Rio6255000HYesYesNoNo1NoYesNo0.63873%
Rio6152000HYesYesNoNo2YesYesNo1.99842%
Rio6102000HYesYesNoNo3YesYesNo1.99842%
Rio6102000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoBlazing 7’s Blackjack1.99842%
Rio6102000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoEZ Bust1.99842%
Rio6102000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoKings Bounty1.99842%
Sam’s Town63500HYesNoNoNo2NoNoNo0.63873%
Santa Fe Station6102000HYesYesNoYes2NoNoNo0.55051%
Silverton651000HYesYesYesNo1NoNoNo0.57085%
Silverton6101000HYesYesYesNo7NoYesNo0.57085%
Silverton6101000HYesYesYesNo1NoNoRoyal Match0.57085%
Silverton6101000HYesYesYesNo1NoNoBlackjack Spin0.57085%
Sahara Las Vegas6101000HYesYesYesNo14YesNoBJ Switch1.93054%
Sahara Las Vegas6101000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoBlazing 7’s Blackjack1.93054%
Sahara Las Vegas6151000HYesYesYesNo3YesNoNo1.93054%
Sahara Las Vegas6202000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoNo1.93054%
Sahara Las Vegas6251000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoNo1.93054%
Sahara Las Vegas6252000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoNo1.93054%
Sahara Las Vegas61005000SYesYesYesYes1NoYesNo0.28507%
Saraha Las Vegas62002000SYesYesYesYes2NoYesNo0.28507%
South Point6101000HYesYesNoNo10NoNoNo0.63873%
South Point6101000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoPair Square0.63873%
South Point6152000HYesYesNoNo1NoNoNo0.63873%
Stratosphere651000HYesYesYesNo14NoYesNo0.57085%
Suncoast651000HYesYesNoNo2NoNoNo0.63873%
Suncoast651000HYesYesNoNo1NoSpin 210.63873%
Texas Station65500HYesYesNoYes5NoNoNo0.55051%
Texas Station610500HYesYesNoYes5NoNoNo0.55051%
Treasure Island651000HYesYesNoNo1NoYesNo0.63873%
Treasure Island6102000HYesYesYesYes7NoNoNo0.48263%
Treasure Island6102000HYesYesYesYes7NoNoNo0.48263%
Treasure Island6255000SYesYesYesYes3NoNoNo0.28507%
Tropicana6101000HYesYesYesNo6YesNoNo1.93054%
Tropicana651000HYesYesYesNo1YesNoNo1.93054%
Tropicana61005000SYesYesYesYes2NoNoNo0.28507%
Tropicana6253000SYesYesYesYes1NoNoNo0.28507%
Tuscany63300HYesYesYesYes1EvenNoSuper Fun 210.48263%
Tuscany65300HYesYesYesYes6NoNoNo0.48263%
Venetian6157500HYesYesYesYes4NoNoBJ Switch0.48263%
Venetian65015000HYesYesYesYes3NoNoNo0.48263%
Venetian610015000HYesYesYesYes3YesNoNo1.84232%
Westgate6152000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoNo1.99842%
Westgate652000HYesYesNoNo6YesNoNo1.99842%
Westgate652000HYesYesNoNo1YesNoFree Bet BJ1.99842%
Westgate61005000HYesYesNoYes2NoNoNo0.55051%
Westgate61005000HYesYesNoYes2YesNoNo1.91020%
Wynn6505000HYesYesNoYes7NoNoNo0.55051%
Wynn65010000HYesYesNoYes1NoNoNo0.55051%
Wynn6152500HYesYesNoYes1NoNoBJ Switch0.55051%
Wynn6255000HYesYesNoYes5NoNoNo0.55051%
Wynn6155000HYesYesNoYes29YesNoNo1.91020%
Wynn6155000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoBlazing 7’s Blackjack1.91020%
Wynn6155000HYesYesNoYes1YesNoFree Bet1.91020%
Wynn610010000SYesYesNoYes10NoNoNo0.35361%
What is your opinion of the continuous shuffle machines now being used at the blackjack tables in Las Vegas? Do these machines give the house more of and edge even when a person is using basic strategy?

For those who don't understand what you're asking, there are new machines that take the blackjack discards and place them randomly back in the deck after each hand. If you are using basic strategy, then the shufflers actually lower the house edge slightly, due to the omission of the cut card effect. It is my understanding that they do provide an honest random shuffle. However, the shuffling machine allows the dealer to waste less time shuffling and spend more time dealing. This means you will spend more time playing, and thus more hands for the house edge to grind you down.
For more information on the mathematical effect of continuous shufflers, please see my blackjack appendix 10.

When playing online blackjack, how do you tell when the deck is shuffled? I play Microgaming casinos (which you report as using 1 deck), but I do not know if each time I play if it is a new deck, and there are no signs of knowing when the deck is shuffled.

Most online casinos shuffle after every hand. Others shuffle at random times but do not indicate exactly when to the player. I have noticed Microgaming casinos flash the word 'shuffling' about one hand in four.
However, if you track the cards between these announcements you will sometimes see the same card twice, which is impossible in a single-deck game, assuming you believe them about when they shuffle. As far as I know, they actually shuffle after every hand, but for reasons I do not understand, only indicate a shuffle occasionally. If I remember correctly, Cryptologic casinos do indeed indicate when they are shuffling their eight-deck shoe.

What do you know about the randomization process that online casinos use to simulate shuffling? How closely does it approximate the actual manual shuffling of cards in a casino? And finally the obvious: wouldn't it be fairly simple to write a randomization (shuffling) program that would give the house a bigger edge -- sort of stack the deck? Enjoy your site. Thanks.

I know that one software company randomly picks two cards in the deck and reverses them, and repeats this numerous times. Since learning of this technique, that is also how I shuffle in my random simulation programs. As long as any method of shuffling is done enough times the deck should be properly randomized.
Manual shuffling is more vulnerable to a biased shuffle and consequently some players try to exploit this by shuffle tracking and card clumping. There are numerous ways an online casino might cheat, but a bad shuffle I don't think is one of them.

I was wondering if you thought continuous shufflers have an effect on basic strategy? I know they speed up the number of hands per hour which is usually bad for the player, but is basic strategy still effective in this instance? Doesn't basic strategy slightly change depending on the number of decks?

I first addressed this topic in my December 1, 2000, newsletter. For those who missed it I just added blackjack appendix 10 to my site, which explains the effect on the house edge under both a cut card and continuous shuffler game. To answer your question, no, the basic strategy does not change. Basic strategy is always developed based on a freshly shuffled shoe, which is always the case when playing against a continuous shuffler.

I’ve noticed that the CSM (Continuous Shuffler Machine) at the blackjack table does not shuffle ALL of the cards at the end of each hand. There are a few cards left in the shoe part of the machine (anywhere from 1 to 20 or so) that are not shuffled. Is there any way this can be used to advantage? For example, I was thinking that there is a lower (but still not zero) probability of having a card repeated two hands in a row. Sit out if there were a lot of high cards last hand . . . bet higher if there are a lot of low cards last hand. The CSM I saw used four decks so, on a full table, there are actually quite a few cards played each hand and you could potentially get a true value of plus/minus one if you made the simplifying assumption that none of those would repeat. Maybe enough to skew the odds?

You’re right, the discards are not mixed among all the cards but can not be placed close to the top of the shoe. I don’t know the exact size of this buffer but it is about 10-20 cards I think. As a card counter it would probably be safe to use a true count from just the last hand played and off the top of a shoe. When converting to the true count you will rarely get anything far from +/-1. If you’re any kind of counter at all I would forget about playing against a CSM, it isn’t worth the bother.

Counting Into A Six Deck Shoe

Six deck shoe
On a CSM blackjack game, 5 deck, what would be the effect of the dealer not putting discards back into the machine every hand if 24 of 52 cards in the discard rack were face cards? What about 48 of 102? What would be the effect if 44 of 52 cards were non-face cards? Can the odds be heavily skewed? I have a feeling that the odds skyrocket in the casino’s favor if the dealer leaves face cards in the discard.

The exact numbers would be difficult to calculate and I won’t get into that. However your speculation is right that the odds favor the dealer if he leaves a lot of high cards in the discard rack yet will put back into play a lot of small cards. This would be the same kind of thing as preferential shuffling, in which the dealer of a hand held game shuffles when the count is good but deals another round on a bad count. Preferential shuffling is something that definitely does happen here in Las Vegas so what you describe would not surprise me either.

I was just wondering if Las Vegas Video Blackjack reshuffles after every hand or after all the decks are played. I know the tables in Las Vegas do it after all the decks are played because if they did it after every hand no one would play. Are the odds that you’ll win worse if there is a shuffle after every hand? Is this even legal or necessary?

I don’t know when they shuffle but I would speculate after every hand. From my blackjack appendix 10 you will learn that the player’s odds improve slightly if the dealer plays exactly n hands between shuffles (including one) rather than playing to cut card, finishing the hand, and then shuffling.

First, thank you for the great site. I went to Las Vegas for this first time this past summer and I played double-deck blackjack at the Orleans. I noticed that after a dealer shuffled both decks, the dealer asked the player to cut the deck. Most players refused. I did not mind, so I cut the deck. Is there a blackjack cut superstition that I am not aware of, or is there a better reason why?

I would say about 1/3 to 1/2 of players would at least initially decline to cut. However if everyone initially declines somebody has to rise to the occasion and do it. Sometimes when players who refuse to cut will say something like 'I don’t want the blame for a bad shoe' or 'I’m unlucky.' I’ve never seen it put into words but there does seem to be a superstition that the cut is critical to the flow of the shoe, and thus the act should only be done by a competent cutter. Of course this is nonsense. For recreational play it doesn’t make any difference whom cuts or where they cut.

Playing blackjack on a continuous shuffling 5-deck system, are the odds of winning different than playing the dealer with 1 deck or 2 decks?

For the beneit of other readers, my blackjack appendix 10 explains, the house edge in a five-deck game is 0.028% less if a continuous shuffler is used, as opposed to a hand shuffle. The difference between five decks and two decks, all other rules being equal, is 0.18%. So the two-deck game without a shuffler would be much better. Let’s compare a 5-deck continuous shuffler game to a 4-deck hand shuffled game. As my blackjack calculator show difference in house edge between four decks and five decks is 0.0329%. So the benefit of a continuous shuffler is worth less than removing a single deck.

Basic Strategy Six Deck Shoe

While playing blackjack at a locals casino in Las Vegas, a dealer from another locals casino sat at my table. While making small talk, she told me that she could wipe out any player using what she called the 'house shuffle.' The lady dealing to us, who claimed to have been a dealer for 25 years agreed with her telling me that it’s 'all about the shuffle.' They were both referring to games dealt by hand as opposed to from a shoe. Is there a way to shuffle that lowers the players chances of winning, and if so wouldn’t this be a form of cheating? Have you ever heard of anything called the house shuffle?

I don’t believe it. Dealers are not the most skeptical group, often believing all the usual gambling myths. Usually the term 'house shuffle' refers to the way the dealers are supposed to shuffle. For example, shuffle twice, riffle, and shuffle again. In this context, she seems to be saying she could alter the shuffle to the player’s disadvantage, which I doubt.

Card Counting Six Deck Shoe

I absolutely love your site. I enjoy the strategies and probability discussions as much as, or more than, the actual gambling! I was playing six-deck Blackjack in a St. Louis casino recently. After playing a shoe, the cards were returned to the auto shuffler, which indicated a card was missing. The dealer proceeded to deal the next shoe while the floor person inspected the returned set of cards. Upon completion of this shoe, the missing card from the previous shoe (a king) was found in the un-dealt portion of the second shoe.

Assuming this King was the bottom card and was left in the shuffler, it would have been in play in this first shoe (the cut was in rear portion of the deck). How much of an additional advantage did the house gain on me with this mistake?

Thank you for the kind words. I’m going to assume the dealer hits a soft 17, and double after a split is allowed. According to table D17 in Blackjack Attack by Don Schlesinger, removing one ten per deck increases the house edge by 0.5512%. Dividing that by six, for the six-deck game, the effect is an increase in house edge of 0.09%.

For recreational blackjack players, who use basic strategy, and don’t count, does the house advantage increase as the penetration increases? I believe it does because the deeper you get into the shoe, the greater the absolute value of the count will tend to get, which should trigger count-based strategy changes. Since the non-counter wouldn’t know when and how to make such changes, he would be making more mistakes as the count gets further away from zero. Thus, wouldn’t a non-counter be better off at a table with shallow penetration?

In a non-cut-card game, the house advantage is always the same for the non-counter. Clumps of high or low cards are just as likely to appear at the beginning of the shoe, as the middle, as the end. Just because the count is zero at the top of the shoe doesn’t mean you’ll have an exact balance of high and low cards. You seem to be suggesting that the cards are more clumpy at the end of the deck. However, if that were true, then the odds would change if the dealer dealt the cards in reverse order. Surely that is a ridiculous notion.

Counting A Six Deck Shoe

Let’s say the basic strategy player has 16 against a 10 late in the shoe, and hits. If the count were high, standing would be the right play, resulting in what would look like an error to a counter who was watching. However, if the count were negative then hitting would be all the better. In the end, it averages out, for the basic strategy player.

Six Deck Shoe Blackjack

For reasons I explain in my blackjack appendix 10, the basic strategy player should prefer a game with a continuous shuffler, if his goal is to minimize the house edge. Aside from that, the house edge is not affected by penetration. I should add that with a shallower penetration there will be more time spent shuffling, and thus a lower expected loss on an hourly basis.